The Statement
AAP FactCheck examined a Facebook post from September 8, 2019 by an Australian member of the Hellenic Paideia ???????? ??????? group featuring a quote attributed to the ancient Greek philosopher Socrates.
The quote reads: Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences, stupid people already have the answers.
The post has attracted one comment and more than 20 shares and 40 reactions.
The Hellenic Paideia ???????? ??????? is a public Facebook group with more than 960 members. The self-described study group states that it has no leaders or teachers and that everyone will be on an equal footing as fellow students.
The Analysis
Born in 470 BC to a stonemason and a midwife, Socrates is credited as the man who introduced the concept that "virtue is knowledge" and is regarded as one of the fathers of Western philosophy. He wrote nothing and most of what survives was recorded by the philosopher Plato, who was his student, and the historian Xenophon.
Platos dialogues are considered the most reliable representations of what Socrates said. Recorded by Plato, Socrates challenged his accusers arguments by using a series of questions aimed at discerning the truth of a topic in a technique that became known as the Socratic Method.
AAP FactCheck sought the opinion of academics regarding the authenticity of the purported Socrates quote.
Philosophy lecturer David Bronstein of the UNSW (the University of NSW) said scholars agree that Plato knew the real historical Socrates well and that some of the views Plato attributes to his character were probably held by the real historical figure.
He told AAP FactCheck the quote didnt ring a bell as being from Platos dialogues but that it might be a paraphrase of a passage.
Dirk Baltzly, a professor and head of philosophy with University of Tasmania, said the quote matched nothing I know of in our major sources: Plato and Xenophon.
Sometimes people take very liberal approaches to translation and this could be someones notion of how to capture the spirit, rather than the letter, of some passage that is familiar me or other specialists. But itd be a very, very creative translation of the ancient Greek. I certainly dont recognise it, he told AAP FactCheck.
The Verdict
Based on this evidence, AAP FactCheck found the attribution of the quote to Socrates to be misleading or based on incomplete evidence as two experts on the philosopher stated the quote is at best a paraphrasing or a very creative translation.
Mixture - The claim of the content is a mixture of accurate and inaccurate, or the primary claim is misleading or incomplete.
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First published September 23, 2019, 15:22 AEST
